Conjecture, Consensus, Evidence of Truth

[Bob]

Notre Dame is like the Dallas Cowboys...either you love them or hate them. I have to admit I'm a fan of the Irish. Of course I was born and raised in the midwest, plus was Catholic and my family was predominantly Irish. Plus my dad's brother played for Notre Dame before transferring to Marquette (home of John McAdams) when they still had football. Speaking of transferring, once you commit to a military academy, you can only opt out before your junior season. Notre Dame tried to get Red to transfer to South Bend after his sophomore season. He was tempted, as they had just won a national title behind a guy named Joe Montana, but he ended up staying in Annapolis and had a great career there.

[Kirk]

unfortunately Bob....I am a cowboys fan. I lived and died with them as a child. I still of course pull for them, but I have grown weary of the Cowboys, and Sports in general. I understand about the catholic part. I was married to a Catholic, and Notre Dame was their team, but UT is my team, which I also love to hate. Opiate of the masses is probably a true statement, and some times I am right in the middle of them.Bob wrote:Notre Dame is like the Dallas Cowboys...either you love them or hate them. I have to admit I'm a fan of the Irish. Of course I was born and raised in the midwest, plus was Catholic and my family was predominantly Irish. Plus my dad's brother played for Notre Dame before transferring to Marquette (home of John McAdams) when they still had football. Speaking of transferring, once you commit to a military academy, you can only opt out before your junior season. Notre Dame tried to get Red to transfer to South Bend after his sophomore season. He was tempted, as they had just won a national title behind a guy named Joe Montana, but he ended up staying in Annapolis and had a great career there.

[Bob]

Kirk wrote:unfortunately Bob....I am a cowboys fan. I lived and died with them as a child. I still of course pull for them, but I have grown weary of the Cowboys, and Sports in general. I understand about the catholic part. I was married to a Catholic, and Notre Dame was their team, but UT is my team, which I also love to hate. Opiate of the masses is probably a true statement, and some times I am right in the middle of them.Bob wrote:Notre Dame is like the Dallas Cowboys...either you love them or hate them. I have to admit I'm a fan of the Irish. Of course I was born and raised in the midwest, plus was Catholic and my family was predominantly Irish. Plus my dad's brother played for Notre Dame before transferring to Marquette (home of John McAdams) when they still had football. Speaking of transferring, once you commit to a military academy, you can only opt out before your junior season. Notre Dame tried to get Red to transfer to South Bend after his sophomore season. He was tempted, as they had just won a national title behind a guy named Joe Montana, but he ended up staying in Annapolis and had a great career there.I write a lot about football and I know what you mean. I'm actually writing a story about the Boys and the Packers this week. By the way, I am an OPRC. That means I'm an occassionally practicing Roman Catholic. Many of the preachings of the Church are 180 degrees from their actual practices, and that is NEVER good. I would say I am a true spiritualist now...and I'm still searching for answers.

[Kirk]

Media Control.....It is something that I wonder about. Is it being controlled? By how much? By who or whom, and When did it start? I don't really have any exact answers on this, but I think anybody can be duped, and then can feel ashamed, and try to hide being duped. Being a Texas boy I always respected Walter Cronkite, maybe just like being raised to pull for the Dallas Cowboys. I could never understand why he couldn't see the light on the JFK Assassination, especially since he was so tied to JFK in History. I mean Walter didn't seem to be a stupid man or liar. On a emotional level all I could come up with was that he was Duped, along with Dan Rather another Texas boy, but one that I do not respect as much. What could be said to make them lie? My feeling is that it had to be big and patriotic. I think they were told that either Fidel or Russia was behind the Assassination, and that if the truth came out we would have WW 3 with Nukes before long. It was bigger then Mr. Oswald's innocences and life. It was bigger then the justice JFK deserved. Later of course they had to know they were duped on some level. LBJ's best catch phrase was always : When you are saving face. You are losing Ass.

[Bob]

Speaking of the MSM and good old Fox News, or better known as the Joseph Goebbels propaganda network...please look at this beauty, thanks to Jon Stewart...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/1 ... htmlBUSTED!!!

[Dealey Joe]

I hope you don't mind me adding my 2c worth.I now live in Oklahoma about 70 miles north of Dallas.and am in Dallas quite often. however I am a missplaced Hoosier.I was born and lived within a few miles of Bloomington Indiana and IUwas a big Bobby Knight fan. had oportunities to meet several of the big players from IU, Branch McKracken, Bob Knight, John Pont, Lee Corso.Actually visited with Bob and Nancy in their home.A friend of mine ownes the chair Bob threw across the floor and made sports history with.John Wooden was also from Martinsvillle Indiana a little further north.I attended a couple football games in South Bend when I was in High School.of course that was back in the days of Knute Rockne And love the movie "Rudy"I lost innterest in sports a year or two after Super Bowl III when it got to the placeyou never knew what team your favorite player might be on next year.Also we don't want to forget the Boilermakers or Indiana State University,home of the little known "Larry Bird".Kirk as for Walter and all the major network people you have to do what Bob says "Follow the money"Well back tot he interesting stuff..JFK

[Bob]

Dealey Joe wrote:I hope you don't mind me adding my 2c worth.I now live in Oklahoma about 70 miles north of Dallas.and am in Dallas quite often. however I am a missplaced Hoosier.I was born and lived within a few miles of Bloomington Indiana and IUwas a big Bobby Knight fan. had oportunities to meet several of the big players from IU, Branch McKracken, Bob Knight, John Pont, Lee Corso.Actually visited with Bob and Nancy in their home.A friend of mine ownes the chair Bob threw across the floor and made sports history with.John Wooden was also from Martinsvillle Indiana a little further north.I attended a couple football games in South Bend when I was in High School.of course that was back in the days of Knute Rockne And love the movie "Rudy"I lost innterest in sports a year or two after Super Bowl III when it got to the placeyou never knew what team your favorite player might be on next year.Also we don't want to forget the Boilermakers or Indiana State University,home of the little known "Larry Bird".Kirk as for Walter and all the major network people you have to do what Bob says "Follow the money"Well back tot he interesting stuff..JFKSpeaking of Indiana Joe, my cousin Tom was an assistant coach under Gene Keady at Purdue and is now the Assistant Athletic Director there. Also, when I met my wife, one of the first converasations we ever had concerned Larry Bird. Rudy is a classic no doubt. I consider John Wooden, along with Vince Lombardi, the two best coaches in sports history. Knute Rockne is up there as well.

[Dealey Joe]

Bob just a little Hoosier trivia for you.Approximately 1924 the souther Indiana City I lived in builta new gymnasium. It was the largest in the state at that time.The first game was played against Martinsville.John Wooden played in that game.Larry Bird was from a small town, French Lick, Indiana about 20 miles from where i lived.

[kenmurray]

Dealey Joe wrote:Bob just a little Hoosier trivia for you.Approximately 1924 the souther Indiana City I lived in builta new gymnasium. It was the largest in the state at that time.The first game was played against Martinsville.John Wooden played in that game.Larry Bird was from a small town, French Lick, Indiana about 20 miles from where i lived.Dealey Joe, Larry Bird is one of favorite all-time NBA players along with John Havilchek. Here is some of Larry Legend's great moments:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OG3PhdFK-M