The Parrallax View on You Tube.

[SeamusCoogan]

ChristophMessner wrote:Is the open air JFK murder the first successful assassination on politics as such, when the mind manipulating power of the media reached the 100% degree of full fakability of reality for the first time?I like the way you put it Chris. In an historical context the Kennedy assassination is one of the greatest pieces of mass media manipulation we have ever seen but certainly not the first. What Hearst did to start the American Spannish war was a Tonkin and 9/11 ahead of its time.

[SeamusCoogan]

Bob wrote:SeamusCoogan wrote:Bob wrote:Yes...the 80's were a very confusing time. I got married after all. But we did get TMWKK in 1988, plus a few great baseball (if you like baseball) movies like Field of Dreams, Eight Men Out and Bull Durham.Field of Dreams clever, Bull Durham brilliant movie Eight men out is a goodie and yeah I liked the Natural lol.Yes...how could I forget The Natural. Great movie. The thing about those movies was the actors that were pretty good athletes were in the roles as baseball players. Looked pretty realistic. Speaking of actors, Goldie Hawn's main squeeze, Kirk Russell, was once in the LA Dodgers farm system, before he hurt his arm. Another good baseball movie was the original Major League, filmed in my hometown of Milwaukee. Charlie Sheen was an excellent ballplayer in high school. Then there are bad baseball movies. Like Fear Strikes Out with Tony Perkins in the role of Jimmy Piersall. My sister throws the ball better than Perkins did in that movie. Perkins looked very out of place in that role as a ballplayer, except when Piersall had the nervous breakdown, which really happened.Major league was pretty cool Fear strikes out sounds terrible Bob.

[ChristophMessner]

SeamusCoogan wrote:ChristophMessner wrote:Is the open air JFK murder the first successful assassination on politics as such, when the mind manipulating power of the media reached the 100% degree of full fakability of reality for the first time?I like the way you put it Chris. In an historical context the Kennedy assassination is one of the greatest pieces of mass media manipulation we have ever seen but certainly not the first. What Hearst did to start the American Spannish war was a Tonkin and 9/11 ahead of its time.I guess you are right and not only around 1900 ac but also 1900 bc, it is probably an eternal thing, these media fakings of what is behind the scenes to let it look like something else in front of the scenes or the other way round.

[SeamusCoogan]

In ancient times if someone died Chris from what I have examined sometimes (but not all) the public was often behind the killing/event. In many ways they were more aware than we are and another things for sure if the elites of the time killed the figure miscalculated and the people found out well look the hell out out. What have we done about JFK. MLK, RFK and X? Thats whats truly terrifying.

[Randy Bednorz]

"Executive Action," "Parallax View," even the 2003 thriller "Blind Horizon" are post-assassination folklore.Even so, they reveal something about the literature.Donald Freed either produced -- or directed -- "Executive Action." He would later do enough homework to write a book on Phillips: "Death in Washington: The Murder of Orlando Letelier" [about 1980-81]."Blind Horizon" is set in New Mexico, near the border. There are some interesting bill-boards featured in the auto-travel of the film's plot.I find it most stunning that Richard Condon's "Winter Kills" was staunched by Ted Kennedy. The opening screen-choreography features a chessboard, with a Knight and Bishop. No less odd, a film with Robert Redford and Brad Pitt about a ranger-trained sniper-assassin turned operative with a Far-East assignment. It was probably released in the late 1990s. Pitt's character has a code-name: "Bishop."The folklore is a very interesting topic. One of my favorites: another Redford film: "Three Days of the Condor" with Faye Dunnaway, Cliff Robertson and Max von Sydow.

[SeamusCoogan]

Randy Bednorz wrote:"Executive Action," "Parallax View," even the 2003 thriller "Blind Horizon" are post-assassination folklore.Even so, they reveal something about the literature.Donald Freed either produced -- or directed -- "Executive Action." He would later do enough homework to write a book on Phillips: "Death in Washington: The Murder of Orlando Letelier" [about 1980-81]."Blind Horizon" is set in New Mexico, near the border. There are some interesting bill-boards featured in the auto-travel of the film's plot.I find it most stunning that Richard Condon's "Winter Kills" was staunched by Ted Kennedy. The opening screen-choreography features a chessboard, with a Knight and Bishop. No less odd, a film with Robert Redford and Brad Pitt about a ranger-trained sniper-assassin turned operative with a Far-East assignment. It was probably released in the late 1990s. Pitt's character has a code-name: "Bishop."The folklore is a very interesting topic. One of my favorites: another Redford film: "Three Days of the Condor" with Faye Dunnaway, Cliff Robertson and Max von Sydow.Thanks bro im gonna have to look into those Death in Washington sounds interesting I dont believe I have come across it however I have heard of Letelier though very interesting. Have to ask Bob if he's seen 3 days of the Condor. BOB!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!

[kenmurray]

Seamus, I saw Three Days Of The Condor at the theater when it came out in 1975. A great film.

[Randy Bednorz]

SeamusCoogan wrote:Thanks bro im gonna have to look into those Death in Washington sounds interesting I dont believe I have come across it however I have heard of Letelier though very interesting. Have to ask Bob if he's seen 3 days of the Condor. BOB!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!The folklore can be anything. But a lot of these films promote myths which can be either instructive or muddle-headed about the assassination. Look at the other Robert Redford film: "Sneakers." The bad guys seem to be former covert operators who did "wet-work," co-opted by organized crime and their toy-factory front, "Playtronics." They kill people, like the mathematics professor who had created the perfect code-breaking computer chip.It still belongs in the realm of fictional propaganda, and the propaganda possibilities can be interesting. But you have to prove what it is, and the high-priest of propaganda research himself, Noam Chomsky, offers the basic description of the problem: It's oftentimes difficult to prove -- unless you have a confession.And don't assume that there's no post-assassination propaganda. It's an ocean-full, and it heaves waves of public perception on the surface of public opinion.

[Bob]

I'm back. I can't be here 24/7 Seamus. Maybe 24/6. Anyway, Three Days of the Condor is a classic film. Just saw it again a couple of months ago. In fact, I am going to start two different threads to let people see Three Days of the Condor and Winter Kills. They both came out in the 70's. The 70's decade was a time when people were not so politically correct, and people in cinema had big balls with some of their films. The MSM also grew some then. But it's all changed for the worse now...except for the internet, which is the people's best weapon vs. the power elite that runs the world.I just checked You Tube and Three Days of the Condor has been deleted. Hmmm. Here at least is the trailer...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBZf7vifXmY

[SeamusCoogan]

Bob Lol well done champ.Why not put up a permanent link to the best 70's barn burning conspiracy we can come across. Bob all you have to do is edit your original post with updates and movies, If someone has a movie they can send you the link they get a thank you and alls good and its all on the one page. I reckon we're gonna have to rate them though maybe we should do a poll?